![]() ![]() And the Justice Department wasted no time asking the federal judge overseeing the case to issue a protective order against Trump. SIMON: A development last night in the criminal case against Trump in Washington, D.C., wasn't there?ĮLVING: Yes, the former president posted on social media, quote, "if you go after me, I'm coming after you," in all caps. We should note that this is happening as Pence struggles to gain traction against Trump on the campaign trail. He is contradicting him on the facts and starting to sound more like a potential star witness for the prosecution, special counsel Jack Smith. Pence is no longer saying he simply disagreed with Trump about what happened on January 6. Pence about the man he used to work for.ĮLVING: Yes, the falling out of the old running mates is one of the more interesting subplots in this whole tale. SIMON: And, Ron, much sharper comments from Mr. ![]() RON ELVING, BYLINE: Good to be with you, Scott. NPR's Washington editor and correspondent, Ron Elving, joins us. The president specifically asked me, and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me, to literally reject votes.įormer Vice President Mike Pence on Fox News speaking about the indictment of former President Trump and statements by a Trump lawyer that Pence had just been asked to pause the vote count. It wasn't just that they asked for a pause. MIKE PENCE: Let's be clear on this point. ![]()
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